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Hi Sheldonist.

You are not powerless.

Wiki only exists because of the free content people like us choose to give it. If we stop, then they stop.

There are alternatives, like Gamepedia, or other wiki platforms, or independence.

I was wondering, admin to admin, if you’d take a look at and if your happy with it, endorse the following. It’s what I think our relationship with Wiki should be.

I’m happy to take suggestions but I’d love to be able to tell Wiki you and your team support this, and if you know other wikis that are unhappy let me know and share it with them. Agent c (talk) 18:30, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

I can only speak for my side until my co-bureaucrat, Ssskoopa, sees this.
I do feel powerless since my activity on Wiki in recent years has been minimal due to commitments to other projects and personal life, and since this wiki does not have all that many dedicated contributors (we are still battling misinformation left by ignorant editors years ago). Ssskoopa has been doing an excellent job in this area, but a single person can do only so much. Even if we did make a decision to move to Gamepedia or whatever other platform, there is simply not enough manpower to do the shift. I can, however, join the side of another powerful admin on the Wiki/Fandom side of things ;)
Regarding the proposal you linked, I see a few things that need a bit of work:
  1. If a feature is not supported by a said community, but Wiki/Fandom decides to implement it anyway, as was the case with the videos (we were not immune to this either), there needs to be an official channel to which the community can speak to. The same must be done for existing features that a community has found to be inappropriate but can not change it from the Admin panel (e.g. the ones made while a community's administration was absent).
  2. Also on the subject of feature additions, changes, or removals, Wiki/Fandom must visibly display these changes to all invited community admins who are under the NDA as mentioned in the proposal, in a sort of an example site. Only then can proper decisions on the changes be made. Also, they need to guarantee that they will invite admins from as many and as varied communities as possible, since something may benefit the gaming-related ones, but will be bad for the ones made around films etc.
  3. Wikis should not be closed after inactivity, only by the administration's request. While dead wikis are often left abandoned with lots of data missing and/or incorrect, there is no reason to remove them (unless they are infringing on copyright or privacy, or are otherwise made in bad faith, etc.). They can be adopted later, at any time, and brought back to good shape. Theoretically, at least. The policies regarding straight-up leaving the platform for another are good in my view, though.
  4. There needs to be a guarantee that if they find themselves in a dilemma on a change that would benefit their sponsor side but will be detrimental to their communities, that they would decide to support their communities, as they are the reason they are alive and big.
As for other admins who are unhappy with the platform's direction, you can contact 452, who is the administrator over at the Saints Row Wiki (which he brought to tip-top shape pretty much on his own in the past several years), as that wiki's news feed isn't really supportive on some of the changes.
Perhaps Energy X of the Might & Magic Wiki could also be of assistance. I don't know what his standpoints are, but it doesn't hurt to try.
I'm eagerly awaiting what comes next. Drop me a line any time. Sheldonist (yell!) 21:25, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with Sheldonist. It's hard to move our wiki when at least half of it is still plagued by inaccurate information (sometimes outright fanfic). Ssskoopa (talk) 00:16, July 18, 2018 (UTC)


Hey guys! I'm one of the Wowpedia (basically Warcraft III and World of Warcraft wiki) admins. Welcome to Gamepedia! As you might already know, our wiki went through a similar split from Wikia years ago, and it turned out very well for us. When I was a kid, Warcraft 2 and Red Alert were the two games that made me dream most, and it's good to have you guys here. Since I'm also admin on another major wiki I can't really come and contribute full time, but maybe I can give a hand here and there? Do you have a page or category dedicated to register pages needing something? Also, you should totally join gamepedia's slack channel here! Xporc (talk) 17:54, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello there, and welcome to our little corner! I'm aware of Wowpedia's origins (but not the time or exact reasoning for the split), and you were one of the reasons I ultimately decided to move to Gamepedia as an example of a success story among many that failed. I'm glad we had someone to look up to :)
We're doing some cleaning up because of some last-minute changes at the moment, but there is in general a lot to do, since many things haven't been standardized in years and much fanfic bullshit is still in there somewhere. We could use some help with the Brotherhood of Nod article (and really any faction articles) to bring it to standards like the featured Global Defense Initiative one. If that's a bit large for you, you can always add to individual unit pages. There's a lot of redundancy there, and I can guide you on what you can look for if you're up for it.
I played my share of WarCraft III and a little bit of II back in the day as well, and liked the lore of the third one a lot. Likewise, if there's something related to the RTS-ey side of WarCraft that I can help with, you can give me a ring. Sheldonist (talk) 18:59, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Alright. I'm not promising anything because I'm actually in "rehab" now, I edited wowpedia so much and for so long that my body had started to hurt and that I could have potentially lost my job ... so I try to take it easy with small-scale projects at most. I'm seeing stuff that I could do here, like tagging pictures by the game they originate from, uploading the actual maps for the old RTSes ... But sadly I have to keep out of involving myself too deeply hehe Xporc (talk) 22:11, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I know what you're thinking. I was in a similar situation 4 years ago, though not related to a wiki :D Don't stretch yourself too much, there will be a time when you'll be able to invest more effort into this. Sheldonist (talk) 22:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Hey there. I ported this from wowpedia and started fixing some minor problems that I found with it. But I saw after posting that you already have a similar category... Maybe these should be merged Xporc (talk) 07:52, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Naming convention in C&C Rivals pages

Hi, I noticed you have fixed some the unit names in the Rivals game, like Mutant marauders and Chemical warriors. When I made the names, I tried to stick to the names as they appeared in the game UI, including at times weird plural forms and Sentece Capitalization. Is in necessary in this wiki to stick to the naming conventions used in other pages? SlantedBishop (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello I was just wondering if you can go to all those mission articles and add walkthroughs and strategy sections to those mission pages so players can learn how to beat those missions especially the red alert 3 and Tiberium wars missions thanks.( 02:15, 25 April 2020 (UTC))